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THE MOST ORIGINAL AND TECHNICALLY SUPERIOR HAWK, YET? I'D HAVE TO DISAGREE |
 Arend D. Hart from Michigan says (20/Nov/2002): |
Personally, I've loved the THPS series since day one, but I think I'm a bit burned out by it now.
Ok for the good - it's a THPS game. We know how fun they are, we know the graphics, new goals system, etc...it's a great game.
Now, the Bad:
I've been playing THPS4, but it hasn't been as exciting as I would have hoped.
First, Neversoft is getting kudos for the new goals system (meeting people and receiving goals). Um...the same system Acclaim has been using in Dave Mirra (and perfected in the recent Aggressive Inline) for a couple of years. Sure, it makes THPS better, but they aren't doing anything new.
And, some of the new goals seem kinda pasted in without having much debugging. For instance, in San Francisco, you get a goal of getting a medal in a competition. The competition's ramps and rails magically appear overtop of the existing scenery. The problem is, it's like they messed up in the coding, and the programming gets confused by this graphical overlay. Go try a lip trick on 90% of the newly appeared ramps and one of two things will happen: Either you'll just not do a lip trick at all (no matter how hard or often you press triangle), or you'll suddenly be planting in the center of the transition with your hand passing through the decking (I surmise you are planting off the original scenery). This sucks when you're a grinder/planter like I am and you can't pull off the easiest of the combo builders, making it had to medal any more than Bronze.
Finally, the spine transfer really is lame. I know the designer's intent, but it comes off as another aggravating addition which only serves to make the game easier, yet more difficult. It used to be that the R1 and L1 buttons were for quarter-spins, and the R2 and L2 were for half-turns. Do R1 and R2 together and you spin faster. We all know this. NOW, if you hit R2 or L2 accidentally(which happens often when you're used to the old control scheme), you end up automatically transitioning out of the ramp (mid trick) with no way to counteract. Then, to top it off, the spine transfer animation is so jerky, it almost makes you disoriented. Even the first Dave Mirra title made spine transfers more exciting, better looking and easier to manage than this. Hell, I seldom had a problem transitioning on the old THPS games, so why change it now...to make it even easier? Oh, and you can use this to save yourself if you accidentally launch off the side of a ramp. Hmmmm.... One less thing that always made the game more challenging. Now the only excitement is timing the spine transfer so it doesn't conflict with the revert you need to pull to keep the combo going.
All in all, I can't really complain about this game in the big picture. It still is the best boarder game out there. But to say it's a 10 for its originality and technical merit just isn't right.
I just picked up Aggressive Inline last week at EB for $20 (new), and saw it in the bargain bin at Target for $15 yesterday. I'd suggest you pick up Aggressive Inline and play that out while you wait for THPS4 to go to Greatest Hits. I mean, I like THPS4 quite a bit, but I can't help feeling depressed about spending $50 on it.
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Best Tony Hawk game ever! |
| Blaine Farrell from Houston Texas says (21/Nov/2003): |
Whoever said the music in this game seriously has way to much time on thier hands...or in thier hands,anyway I think this one of the greatest genres in the world i'm already a Tony vet and I know my games and this is by far the most addicting game out there today so all you haters need to jump on the wagon cuz' Tony is here to stay
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this is my first THPS game i've ever played... |
| Kori Lynn from DeKalb, Illinois says (8/Aug/2003): |
after i played this one, i played the third one too, and i only played cuz i heard Bam Margera was in it! It turned out the game was ok. nothing to really marvel over. the graphics rocked, but some of the missions were kinda hard. It's good to just rent every once in a while...its not worth going out and buying it....
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Tony Hawks Pro Skater 4 is the best game in history. |
| A gamer from South Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States of America says (17/Feb/2003): |
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4 is the game of all games. It is packed with good songs, great graphics, and awesome levels. My favorite skaters are in the game and it also has an awesome little clown that you get when you do a certain amount of goals. The special moves for some people are great too. Karrem Cambell has the kickflip bacflip which is one of the pro specific goals in San Francisco.
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sweetish summary on thps4 |
| Julian Padilla or "JP" from Tucson AZ , united states of america says (11/Jun/2003): |
yeah, this game was really good... but, you need more tricks, like salads shouldnt be a special, and you need tricks like easy flips, big heels, big flips, frontside flips, backside flips, like, they should have the right names, not nollie+kickflip, but nollieflip, know what i mean. ARTO SAARI!!!! put him in the game dude, everyone will buy it if artos in it. or pj ladd, that guy rocks too, maybe one of the black label riders, like ben gilley... yeah, thatd be sick dude, that guy rocks at handrails (i.e. front 5.0 el torro, what was he thinkning?)anyways, yeah dude, it was good, but put newer tricks and some other skateboarders. oh yeah, and fix the nollie tricks, if you dont know what i mean, go try to do a nollie tre flip.
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Ok, but this isn't what i was waiting of THPS4. |
| Brad Felizardo from Luanda, Angola says (16/Sep/2003): |
One more disappointing version of a great PS2 game. Ok, it's PS2 again, and off course the graphics are great, but just talking about graphics i can say the first bad thing: What tha hell are those levels? I think that only the first 2 levels are great, and Kona, the rest completely sucks, a lot of old iron stages, they didn't know how to explore well the PS2 capacity of graphics, sincerly i prefer the THPS2 stages, you all remember those great stages like the beach (I think that a beach in THPS4 should fit, why they didn't made it? Something like Miami should go...). Also, this game will not give you fun for so much time, there isn't too much (i mean... real stuff!) to buy. In THPS2 the tricks where purchased and also it had great styles of boards and clothes, in this one they give you all the most important tricks at the beginnin', you'll be passing and winning trough the stages and you'll realise that new tricks aren't coming, and you'll say: "-Damn! I can't belive this is all that this game have to give us!" But belive it, it is all. The boards are the worst, even Tony's boards, and too much "humoristic like" boards, and others with no sense or good design at all. Talking about sense, Neversoft puts too much things of their own in the game, like their movies and things like that, is it right to get big money making the objectives and just to buy movies of them? Arght.
At last, there are some good points like the cool guys of the game like that drunk man, and 35 sound tracks, at the beginning the music appears to suck, but no, they're cool, and the objecives are fun and great too, just poor when it comes to objectives of competition.
About the Custom Skaters and Skaters, man, when do they learn that most of people love to do "really custom" skaters? Look, the cool shoes are all of the real 12 skaters, and it's impossible to at last change their color! Also, there isn't even one beautiful woman custom face, just check them well, they're all not cute (well, the glasses should do...).
Hey guys, and just check out Elissa Steamer's face in 3D that Neversoft did, arggghttt! Is that Elissa Steamer? Hahaha, if they really want to make the game look great, they have to be more serious when making them, that's for sure. I'm waiting for MTV Skateboarding on PS2.
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tony hawks underground is the best game ever f all the that say otherwise |
| ZERO KID says (4/Nov/2003): |
tony hawks underground or bust fagits. dont even try and front on the new $#< remove me > at !. you can almost do anything that u want and the tricks are the best and it dosnt look as fake it has "style". if enyone out there has played this game and thinks the same give me an e mail and we will talk. it is like you are playing in real life because you have to work your way up tp the top. it is a little challenge but if you arnt a loser you can do it simple. PEACE
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Killer Online Mode!!!! |
| Lindsey F. from Santa Cruz Ca USA says (18/Nov/2002): |
This game has changed from Hawk 3 in many ways. First is the fact that the game now has 190 objectives, bigger levels, and the eight player online mode! The games controls are a bit tighter than Hawk 3. That alone has its advadages and disadvadages. Also, the online mode has a glitch; if your dial up service loses contact and you are in a lobby and try to go to a new one, the game will freeze. Other than that, the online mode is great! You can find me online at user name Lindsey, or my brother's user name < remove me > at Gem.
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Tony Hawk 4 Challenges and Music |
| Brett from Ohio, USA says (22/Nov/2002): |
Tony Hawk 4 is a great game and is put together pretty good but some of the things in there like the challenges are a little to easy to do but some are also fun. Some of the challenges where you have to score a certain amount of points are a little too easy. The easiest challenge I think is where you have to score 50,000 points. I got that challenge in under 15 seconds. The producers should of made some of the challenges a lot harder. The other point challenges can be really hard, like when you have to score 1,000,000 points. That challenge took me a little bit longer to do. Another hard challenge is manualing the switch backs in Alcatraz. One of my favorite challenges is cart-racing in Alcatraz with Bam Margera. That challenge is so fun especially when your just messing around. I think the producers made that a fun challenge. Now to the music. I think thps 3 had some better music than thps 4. Some of thps 4 songs are good but other songs are just bad and shouldn't be on there. I think the graphics were good. I don't like the new spine transfer it just makes things easier especially when your doing point challenges. One other thing I like is that instead of the challenges just being their, you have to go to people and they'll give you challenges. This Tony Hawk is a lot more real like now you can just ollie and do a double kickflip and things like that. I wish they had some codes out because sometimes I'll just like to play around and enjoy it more and I know other people are the same way. Thats what I think of thps 4.
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THPS4 is amazing!... no matter what you cheaters say |
| dave from california says (12/Dec/2002): |
This is a message to any THPS4 fans who think they are masters at the game and claim its too easy and that it has bad gameplay. THPS4 can not even be compared to 1,2, and 3 because it is the best game around by far for any system out right now. The game play is amazing and the game offers many challenging, new and exciting goals. To anyone who says they have beaten it in less than a day, try again, without cheats and without using secret characters. I have already beat the entire game without cheating at all so I say if you have used cheats... start over and then tell me the game sucks and is too easy.
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Get Real! |
| Angelo from Chicago, USA says (5/Jan/2003): |
Ok, I addmit all the THPS games rock, but they keep on getting so darn fake! The only reason why I gave this game a 5 is because, free skate is awesome, so are the pro videos and the System of a Down and NWA songs. But really, the objectives just keep on getting dumber. Doing a 900 in a carnivial ride while the ride is actually going? Chasing down a rat? And collecting various junk for pedestrians? Sure the game is addictive and fun, but its taking away what real skateboarding is!!! There are kids out there who think its really possible to do a 900 to casper slide off a building. Come on!!! Make the objectives actually skateboard related!!! And one more thing - if theres gonna be a THPS5, make it more realistic, because its getting really stale!
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By far the best of the THPS series. |
| Adam Romero from Fresno, California, USA says (6/Jan/2003): |
First of let me respond to the most common complaint I seem to have run across in reviews. The music sucks. You know what...if you are too stupid to figure out how to go into the options menu and turn the music level down and flip on a stereo, you deserve to sit there for endless hours and listen to grating, force fed main stream music. I myself happen to be a country music fan but you know what...I didn't buy the game for the music. If you want good music, go to a music store. The re-configuration of the flat land tricks is awesome and I have mixed feelings on the spine transer capabilities. I know there are some people that don't like it...but don't you think that if these people can sit in front of a TV for 13 hours a day to play one game they should be able figure out two new buttons. I'm sure it's nothing that an hour or so of game play couldn't fix. The largers levels are nice but somtimes it takes a while to find the next goal. Some of the goals are just plain hard (i.e. the escape from alcatraz one) I do like the fact that each level as adequate street and vert areas as well as original lines to link the two together. The online play is awesome and within two days I went from scoring 200,000 or so in a two minute run to well over 4,000,000 in one 30 second combo. Just being able to play with people other than your friends definately opens up the game to new possiblities and allowing for different style. All in all the innovative game play when teamed with online capabilities did for the video game industry what the modern alphabet has done for communication.
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AWESOME but BUT NOT THE BEST! |
| A gamer says (19/Jan/2003): |
I gave THPS4 an 8 out of 10.I thought it was pretty good.It's fun playing the mini games and accomplishing a lot of unique and fun goals in career mode.Plus more characters,good levels,so much money to spend and so much to buy.That is what i wanted to see in Tony Hawk 4 but it did lack some and i thought some of it was annoying. I think that it was a bad idea to put the COMBO goal in the game because it was really annoying.Especially when you have to do it in EVERY level!It was VERY ANNOYING and it gave me a headache!Some of the goals are stupid and unrealistic as well.But the worst part of the game was the music!!The music in THPS4 was terrible!I only liked one song in the whole game.Another thing was that the characters were basically the same as THPS3.As I said...its good but not the best.
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where is the cool replays ? |
| Lucas from Gothenburg Sweden says (6/Feb/2003): |
First I just want to say that it's an awsome game, the music could've been better but it's a matter of taste I guess. The instant replay is a good thing but it would be better if you could rewind it yourself and show it in different angles which you could on thps 3 that's the only thing I really miss in this game otherwise the tphs 4 rules
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Good but going too Unrealistic |
| Gremline from New deal says (24/Mar/2003): |
This is an excellent game but it is getting to unrealistic. I mean, come on, who is going to do a Might as Well Jump. Seriously I would take Thrasher or Grind Session over this series any day. I like realism. Keep it real. Not FAKE. Take Thrasher for example. Every trick in there is possible and the speed is just about right. No one is going to land a ten set 20 foot stretch then another ten set in one ollie. Get back to normal.
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The Best yet |
| Craig from Edinburgh, Scotland says (6/Jul/2003): |
I am sorry but most of the people who wrote these revieews must be deaf. The Music is the best yet. I found that spine transfers were Impossible until now. The goals are only easy because A you have cheats on or B because you play it so often that you are already good at It. If so do what it says on the credits and get out and go skate for real! ten out of ten easy.
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a decent game |
| oz from London, England says (15/Sep/2003): |
This game is really really really good but! it could be improved which i see they have done with Tony Hawks Underground (the sequal to this game if u didnt no). But the idea of having no time limit on riding around the level and u can just ride into each mission. The missions are well good like the new combo idea which really brings a new level of difficulty to the game. The other three have been a slit dissapointmeant as they r so easy.
Overall i would recomend this game to any1 who enjoyed the previous games and look out for T.H.U.G. (its short for tony hawks underground see wat they done there thug!! get it?)
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It kicks butt, Like, Totally. |
| Gus from Didcot near Oxford, UK says (4/Sep/2003): |
The game is above all the others, the new missions format rules, even if acclaim already has it. Even if it is unrealistic, it would be no fun if it was realistic! -Just like the Realistic mode cheat says- it takes the fun away! Me and most of my friends skate. We have been for ages! In the Tony Hawk's series we are able to do all the tricks and combos that we would love to do in real life, but are humanly impossible. It's what you do when raining and you can't go out and skate! Other than that, i guess there are a few bugs, the replay is slightly dissapointing, but the awesome music, challenges, skateshop and graphics such as the scabs and disappearing deck graphics make this game a gem that everyone should get.
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Some annoying goals, great gameplay, and overall, worth the cash!!! |
| Tommy from Charlotte, USA says (19/Mar/2003): |
One big problem is that I can't totally beat the game since I can't do one skaters pro challenge. The one in Alcatraz that asked you to invert on the cell block roof. My guy, full on stats, just can't make it that high. Whats up with that?Anyway, the game is fun but has some very annoying goals. Manueling down three switchbacks in Alcatraz. COMBO after COMBO after COMBO. Overall, a very well done game. If they didn't have the combo's and other such stuff it would be boring. However, I'd like to see more active levels, and I like tons of hidden stuff aka THPS3 that you get when you beat it not by typing in cheats. You can pull some fat tricks, which is cool. And for the most part, good job on the levels.
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IF THIS GAME MEETS THE HIGH STANDARD ALREADY SET WE SHOULD BE IN FOR A TREAT! |
| nick sedunow from vancouver canada says (3/Oct/2002): |
if the new game is anything like its predecessors we should all be in for a great session! i played the next on kelly slaters pro surfer and already i cant wait for thps 4 to hit the shelves! i love the fact that to complete challenges you have to talk to people instead of checking a list of required goals. skitching behind cars as well as in level restart points that you can set yourself make me anticipate its release even more. there is also a tennis mini game in the demo level that lets you whack the balls with your board! every fan os thps should jump at the chance to own the next installement of a game that wirtually singlehandly revolutionized extreme sports gaming. i give it a nine having never even played but im sure once i have it be a ten for sure!
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