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Best Tony Hawk game to date. | | Chad641 from Buffalo NY, USA says (8/Dec/2003): | I think a lot of people might have been worried that the newest Tony Hawk game would be too much like THPS4. It's definatly not!
Get off your board, drive a tricked out car, and climb on buildings are just a few of the things you can do in this newest Tony Hawk port. Unlike the other Tony Hawk games this time you'll start as a no-name skater out to make it big. The first THPS game to feature and actual plot.
Again this doesn't score a perfect score because of minor flaws. For example, when you get out of your car, you and the car are back at the place you got in at,(so basically there is no point in driving, it's not like your getting anywhere except back where you got in).But overall and excellent game with tons of replay value. I recently purchased this and I wasn't dissapointed. Even if your not a skating fan, give it a try.
| Tony's New Toy | | J.J. Bannier. from England, Sussex says (8/Apr/2004): | This game is great in some ways, it has good graphics, background music (always important when you play for hours), There is an awfull lot to do so it will hardly get boring. The reason it got a 7 though is because its unrealistic. I mean like, grinding a pole for 10 secounds hile changing the move then jumping off into a manual to do another couple of hundered tricks really ins't possible. Good game, And it is certainly worth the money. The next Tony hawk's number 5 is really gona be great. ;-)
Writen By J. J. Bannier
| THUG IS NOT AS GOOD AT THPS4 BUT ITS COOL! | | Tyler aka Killer from West Virginia, US says (6/Nov/2003): | I reviewed THPS4 section before i did this one... its got alot of THUG info on it too but here we go. Theres 12 levels (3 secrect ones from THPS2). Theres 14 skaters (4 secret). THUG online play is exactly the same as thps4 except for a new game called firefight its not very cool though.Online play has auto-score updater so every time you do a trick attack game online you get ranked.To look at thps4 highs goto www.thpsxonline.com and click on esokiller (thats me). THUG has a few new features. They are Create-a-trick, create-a-deck and a few more. If you have online you can put your face in your own created skater! All you have to do is get a digital camera take a pic of yourself and send it to neversoft. Theres also a hell of alot of songs theres 75 (about 50 are good)I give if possible thug a 47/50 and THPS4 50/50. But I recommend THUG and THPS4 as a first buy game. Those 2 games are the best ever made.
| the best ever. | | nick from tracy,usa says (16/Nov/2003): | omg this is the funnest game i have ever played it is really cool every thing about it i mean it is so cool.there are no words to tell how cool it is. it is the best tony hawk game they have ever mad eit has a lot of stuff that i like. one really cool thing is the fire ball game me and my friend played that game for so long and it never got old. i cant really say anything else becuase there are really no words to describe it.
| Good, but....... | | You from Oregon, USA says (3/Jan/2004): | We all know that THUG is the best Tony Hawk game to date, everyone knows that. You get to skate, run, and drive cars at the same time, you have missions, or jobs, like getting someones skateboard out of a tree, and the game has very good gameplay, with simple controls. But the bad things about THUG is that the missions are lame, stupid, or sometimes can't even beat at all. And if your missions is running for something, and your on a roof, it's hard to control your person because he/she runs to fast, and falls off. And plus, your real name doesn't come up till the end, but meantime, your name is You. "Hey You, I need you to do something for me." Anyway, THUG is good, but some problems, and it should be for rental only. You buy it, and can beat it in an hour. Waste of $$$.
| this is the best skateboarding game ever! | | Vicky from New Fairfield, Conneticut, USA says (4/Nov/2003): | It can't get any better than this! Tony Hawk takes it to a whole new level where you can do anything. It is like you are really there. You can break your board, drive tanks and just well.... anything really! this game has gotten me to do better in skateboarding and i have gotten my friends to do it as well! this is by far the best skateboarding game EVER! WHERE WILL IT END!!!
| Overall Awesome, But Needs To be More Like Tony Hawk 3 or 4 ! | | A gamer from Indio,California USA says (1/Jan/2004): | I thought that this game was awesome, but the story mode sucked!
I mean I became pro and beated the game within 2-3 hours!! and you couldn't pick the pros and you had to be some skater punk
or as I like to call them is posers!! Except for the ones I created, I mean like Tony should have left it like Tony Hawk 3,
or Tony Hawk 4 as Career mode, and he should have left it as you
able to pick the pros in the story mode at least. Second of all
I think that Tony should have kept the pros look like from Tony Hawk 4, I mean like what is up withe Eric Koston, Andrew Reynolds, Arto Sarri,and Rodney Mullen!! Imean Rodney Mullen in Tight Pants, Andrew's, And Arto's heads shaved Eric koston wearing a wig!! or is it his actual hair! But anyway Overall this game is Awesome I mean Better Specials, more Freestyling, Better Levels, And even Old levels like the school 2 From Tony Hawk 2, and even New Pros!! You Should at least rent this game before buying it!!
| THIS IS THE BEST GAME EVER! | | Jonny Cade from Chicago,IL says (13/Nov/2003): | Tony Hawk's Underground is the best game for the Tony Hawk sieries!!!!!!You should rent/buy this game because it is the best game ever made i cant wait for Tony Hawk 6 if there is one.anyway thats all i have to say about the game ecsept for...
BUY IT!!
| Hell good by it for sure | | Kasheeban Sureshan from Perth,Western Australia,Australia says (21/Apr/2004): | This game is one of the sickest games i've ever played and it so totally rules and the graphics are hell good and the gameplay really is fun so i definately reccomend you to by it cause it's a sick game. It's got lots a pro skaters even Mike V and you can download your face and play as you. And you can create your own goals, Parks, And tricks. It's a lastable game for a about 3 months if you are really in to it. It's fun and has a lot of other features and backround stuff like people skating and people walking who you can knock down.
| MMMMCCCTTTWWWIIIISSTT! | | Chelsea from morristown,tn,usa says (2/Jun/2004): | Yes this game was pretty cool i dont think it got any harder from sik to easy i hated the mctwist that pissed me off because it frustrated me trying to get over that damn helicopter grrr lol but other than that the game was awesome i had been renting it for weeks but now i finally bought it.if you havent tried it i would recommend you rent it than all you damn closed mind people dissing on the game before you even play the game the most difficult thing will be the mctwist i think it is.but any ways get the game!i really love tony hawk to !
| If tony Hawk underground had come out earlier it would have changed some of the best games into even better games | | Xandi from Ypsilanti says (19/Oct/2003): | I have played a lot of games in my life but this game tops of all of the boarding games i have ever played man. If there were a higher ratting, i would rate it the highest one, but 10 is the limit, mabye there should be more. Like mabye 50. I can't even begin to describe the awsomeness of this game
| The best can get better | | Don from San Diego, CA says (30/Oct/2003): | i thought Tony Hawk 4 was incredible, but this just blew it away. The challenges are harder than ever and i'm actually getting frustrated because of it. The levels are far more realistic and the bails are gnarly. The only thing that wierds me out is some of the views that they have and the difficulty of changing them
| Stick with thps 3 & 4 | | Jeremy Sprader from Wauwatosa, WI, USA says (7/May/2004): | ---The games pretty good but saving gets all messed up and its so unrealistic. The create-a-trick is cool, and graphics and sound were great but easy mode in career mode I could do any trickon flat ground. The unlockable things are cool like Iron man and the Level Hotter Than Hell. But it could improve on some areas. There are alot of levels too Including three levels from thps 2 like Old School II. Overall pretty good considdering 129 goals on carreer mode. most of them are easy though. Driving a car isnt much fun and all running is good for is acid drops which come in handy in the Hawaiian level so both are pretty useless.---
| THUG huh?! | | BradTheWorst from Luanda, Angola says (2/Jul/2004): | _Graphics_
! Good Things !
- Improved graphics quality
Well, this isn't a new gossip, we know games get better on graphic's quality on their next sequels. Custom faces are improved and new animations added. Finally Neversoft's levels/stages/parks are getting better, well, not by size but by details (I believe there are too many objects on the main levels, these objects have nice details, just pay attention to things like fountains, etc). Create-a-Park is improved, now you can create custom parks with more things around.
- Weather effects
At least! It's the first extreme sports game with day/night on the same stages and custom parks too. There's even rain (quite fair) and snow (a bit nice).
- Excellent design
I allways take seriously the design of games like this. The menus, etc, are very well done. Neversoft gave a special dedication to design in this game, you can even choose the graphical interface of the game.
! Bad Things !
- Improved graphics quality but...
This is the king of glitches THPS sequel. You'll see floating hair (not on your head), girls with Toys 'R legs (create a girl with a mini skirt and pay attention to her legs sideways), serious glitches when doing lip tricks (the previous THPS games didn't have them like this), and many others.
- Weather effects... so, i want to play at/with...
Let's say the weather is just used to try to give a nice look to the "story" (yeah, yeah, when i start a 20 seconds goal it's night, i finish it, it's day). But the real problem is just one: You can't choose the weather. Was it too hard to at least allow us to choose if we want to play at night or day when choosing a level on high score/free skate mode? Many guys try to choose the weather by browsing through the goals, well this is not the right way to choose the weather (if there's one!), since it isn't the right way you'll still have problems in many cases, and you won't get the desired weather for free roaming. Some levels have a nice night version for example, but after completing one or some goals you won't see them ever again, unless you "want" to repeat the same goal. This is a pretty dumb situation.
- How the levels smell?
Create-a-Park is improved, now you can create custom parks with more things around, but still that annoying feeling of being skating inside a jail. Z-Axis has a better way to establish the limitations of custom parks, and also a better way to design the levels at all. THPS levels still aren't big/fun enough.
_Sound_
! Good Things !
The game has lots of tracks of hip hop, rock and punk. The voices are pretty nice, it's amazing how the male character's voice can fit for anybody.
! Bad Things !
The game has a lot of Punk music, that really pissed me off. I hate Neversoft's way to try to be cool using craziness, and believe, it's getting worst. So, the game has lots of tracks, but prepare yourself to turn off lots of them too.
_Gameplay / Story_
! Good Things !
- Viva Underground!
It was a really great idea to create THUG. You'll be glad to join some sponsor, have your own deck and have a place between the real pros. Again, it was really a great idea.
- New stuff is allways welcome!
Getting off your board, that's amazing, it's just another really great idea.
- Hotlinking, hehehe.
The connections and structure of the menus are excellent. You're skating, you can go to modify your skater and be right back to the same stage. Also you can create a trick when skating anywhere, that's helpful.
! Bad Things !
- Features!!!
1. Instead of making the Instant Replay feature really better, they removed it!
2. Create-a-Trick feature should be Create-a-Trick Beta. It really isn't that good like you think, you'll see it.
3. Create-a-Deck feature isn't that good. It only allows you to use 4 layers, so forget about dreaming of having your name on the board. And know what? Those 4 layers are for everything, so, even if your name has only 4 letters your board will have a not so good design, cause you won't be able to apply other symbols, images, etc, not even your sponsor's logo (but forget about that, the extra symbols and images aren't pretty good too).
- Holy features!!
There are no subtitles. But wait! I wanna ask you a question, what's the sense of using cars if when you get out of them you'll be on the same place where you started driving? This is the most funny attempt to create something related to cars i ever saw, since NES.
- Story??
I can't spoil it, you'll see how bad it is yourself. I'll just tell you one thing, you'll understand later:
"Who tha hell wants all his life to be based on just one friend???"
- System sin
The Story/Skate save file connection creates great failures and lack of performance on the game. (Wanna play that level you've just unlocked with another skater you've created? So, get ready to load him/her and do all the same again until you can unlock the level for him/her too),(Wanna make a new game? So, erase your custom skater again and...).
- How about wood? Merchandise?
The wide selection of decks is gone, you just get some skates from a skateshop, one thing i don't understand is why most decks are of the real pro skaters if this is a custom version!! Some sponsors where eliminated, so, you won't see decks/clothes/logos from sponsors like TheFirm, Almost/Panda, Shortys, Baker, City Stars, (Hell! After Zero, this is the most cool sponsor), etc. The game only has 4 sponsors, very funny.
- How about the goals?
Goals for what? Where's the money? It isn't even for stats. That usual way of getting stat points from the previous series is gone. Now you just complete the goals to see the ending and unlock levels, that's it, that's all. And just to tell you that the women's story is the same, so you'll see your female skaters acting like males during some situations of the story, so tell me, what tha hell is this? Glitch or laziness?
You'll be picking up every, i mean, everykind of items that you'll sometimes wonder if you're a dog or a skater, and you'll wonder if you're playing a stupid Neversoft version of Shenmue or a skateboarding game. So the question is "Tony Hawk had to be a servant to get pro?". What's really funny is how senseless most goals are, i asked myself manytimes: "Is this a clown's dream?", "Am I watching Tom and Jerry?". What? You're saying you don't mind about this? Ok, it's missing something, i'd say it's completely boooooring, 'cause you have to do these senseless goals to advance and watch your "story", get new levels, etc (Get all somethings in one combo). This isn't Shenmue where you can follow a local while you're changin' to some tv channel, be ready for thousands of retries of senseless goals.
- Oh c'mon... be happy! This is Underground!!
This is an underground/custom version of the game right? Ok, but the body/skater edit features are still poor. You can't edit for real, like color of eyes, type of mouth, etc (Neversoft is playing around with serious stuff, allowing us only to edit the nose of the skaters so we can create a skater looking like a monkey. This is really goofing around with features). And it seems that most gamemakers now are afraid of making women with bikini/bra only, so i would like to say one thing, and one thing only: Women with bikini/bra only isn't porn!!
The way to scale body is still somewhat pathetic, it seems that you'll end up creating someone with the chest of a gorilla sometimes. This game has lack of accessories for you to be a really underground and unique skater , like more cool gloves, piercings, stuff for the neck like bling bling, etc, it's a lot that's missing. And to tell the truth, i'm really tired of Neversoft's 3D clothes/items, i think they need to get some new designers urgently. If you're older than 18, buy BMX XXX and you'll know what i mean with really cool accessories/custom clothes, etc.
- Lack of cool cheats / Lack of cool secret stuff to unlock
Oh man, even this?!? Where's m'a slowmo? The cheats are a great ace for the lifespan of THPS series, but this version of THPS brands you with the "most no fun" cheats of their collection, so stop dreaming about the future of skateboarding and to be Morpheus or Neo, you won't fly with your skateboard around here. Also, this is the worst THPS version when it comes to secret characters, Private Carrera is gone, Daisy isn't original and the real secret characters are kindda stupid/no fun. Besides the THPS2 levels (wich are pretty dark and with bad textures) you won't get too much like you expect.
_Lifespan_
! Good Things !
I only have one thing to say: It's still THPS, but a new one. No matter what, you'll be glad to have it on your collection.
! Bad Things !
- I got to pick it up!
The most annoying thing for me in this game is that they created a close to real physics to the skate/board when you bail, so, if you bail the skate will react almost like a real one. So, why on earth they did that if when you get up the skate will magically appear under your feet?! I know, the game would become harder, but they really could find a way, an option called "Sim Mode" or something, when Sim Mode is on you should have to go get your skate wherever it fell, and end your session if it brakes.
- Items
Now talking about items, there aren't cool items around on this game. Just imagine how could it be fun if you could find some "real" secret items climbing buildings and finding secret places. If you find an item you're probably doing a goal, or unlocking some... well, i won't spoil... what isn't enough. You know it isn't enough, and if you know what i mean you can start thinking that walking and wondering around on foot's lifespan is badly affected by this.
- Keeping it real! Well... at least let's simulate ok?
Ok, let's see. In the beginning of the game you have a house, right? This house/room was completely made and it's the place where you stay when your editing a skater. So, why on earth you can't enter/visit it when you're roaming around New Jersey?! There is Peralta's Skateshop, right? (They made the main part too), so why you can't visit it when your skating? Like i mentioned, when you bail you should go pick your board again, and end your session when it brakes. If it brakes you could have to get one board, walking only on foot, this is where the skateshops could get into action (and your money), all the levels should have skateshops, they could even be all from Peralta to make things easy. These are the real deals for the lifespan, but i can't see features like these! I sometimes wonder why the game has so many items when you can't interact with them (at least some fake interaction could do the job!).
You may think, "well, these things aren't necessary...". So, in return i would like to ask you something. Why is Rockstar one of the most popular gamemakers and why they have the most popular games like GTA (Kids are crazy about this game, you know it) and Max Payne? Simple, Rockstar does almost an half of what i'm saying. Let's take Max Payne as an example. Max Payne ISN'T a game of free roaming, but if you notice, you can use or interact with almost every item on the game, that increases a bit the lifespan even on this action game, the game can be sweet for you, free roam lover gamer, and very sweet for who's watching you playing, these are the big steps for somebody on your house to take a while to watch you, that's the most important step to that lil phrase that goes like "The day when your father will sit and play with you". THUG series really need much more features, it really isn't what i was thinking it should be. Oh yeah? You think i don't got some ideas? So let me tell you, on a game like this we need to remember the best momments of our journey, features like camera effects, photo album, more people around the levels, places to get in around the levels, etc, should already exist on THPS4, and i still can't see these.
We're still far from making things like free roaming games a lil way of life (If we only think about money that's even worst). Since NES, we're evolutin', but we have to avoid these critical errors or we'll be a lot of time on the same place, things that could be done in 5 years only showing up after 15 or more years. So, you may start to think: "Damn! I could have born a bit later on..."
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_ Graphics _ 13/20
With lots of critical glitches, it can't go further than 13, and i would give it less if it wasn't for the lil' graphics quality upgrade.
_ Sound _ 13/20
Not a very original playlist, and it's completely unstable. There are lots of tracks, but i'm sh'ure you'll turn off lots of them too. The voices are pretty good, but the female character's voice is pretty annoying.
_ Gameplay / Story _ 11/20
The rating is fair, and you know it. The story is really, really, really bad, you'll see phrases like "Keep it Real" when you're supposed to fly (well, almost). With the not "that" good features like Create-a-Deck and Create-a-Trick, the gameplay goes down (God! If BMX XXX has over 2000 tricks, i don't know why the latest THPS series can't have more than 100 tricks!)
_ LifeSpan _ 14/20
Since i can't go pick up my board when i bail, and can't roam around to find cool secrets, enter buildings, etc, i (and probably you too) won't take too much time walking off your skateboard. But we all know THPS series give us some good time skating, so 14 is fair.
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Buy it, it's the most you can't get now. Then wait for Neversoft's, Z-Axis's and many other's next attempts.
| Cool game (having trouble with it, though) | | Charlie from Long Island,NY says (20/Nov/2003): | This is an awesome game, But they can make it a little less challenging, for example, The goal I'm up to Is to get special, and do a New York Nut Buster (A Trick another Skater Created)Inside a building that has no ramps, no spines, all you can do is grind or maybe a couple of easy tricks.
| THUG SUKS BROTHER | | Carter from london, england says (1/Apr/2004): | THIS GAME SUCKED I HATED IT!!!!!!!!!!!! It had no realism in it at all i mean in easy mode you can land a miktwist off the ground...FOR SURE!!!
I don't know why every one is bashing tony hawk because it's neversoft and activision who screwed up this one, Tony Hawk, please just stop signing your name of to everything i mean like honestly here are you really just going to keep making these games like honestly if you don't get some GTA 3 in there no one is going to buy your freakish games
Anyways this game is crap if your going to bye somthing WORTH your $$$ then buy a REAL skateboard and get your butt outthere and skate unless you wanna do a 1440 off a 2 foot gap what ever you want...POSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| I am very dissapointed. | | Jimmy from Saffron Walden, England says (28/Nov/2003): | First off, i am not slagging this game off but... it's pants. Neversoft spent so much time putting in new ideas and the walking and the driving, and I bought the game, completed it in about 2-3 hours and took it straight back to the shop. Even the secrets really, really sucked. This game wasn't for skateboarders, it is for 9 year old and fat bastards who cannot skate. Example of the amazing realism of the game : the first level. `You start off as a nobody`, however there seems to be about 50 halfpipe configurations around. They could of at least started characters off on a REAL street. Second, there is next to no realism! I mean, i was dissapointed when i became pro in about half hour, but a mctwist over a helicopter is never going to happen is it? I liked the game for the incredibly short time i played it (approx 5 hours) but it was incredibly dissapointing after constructing a team of pros, not even well thought out ie geoff rowley in a suit, then grinding round a city while your `best friend` throws petrol bombs at you. NOT BLOODY LIKELY!
i would have kept this game like i did the others, but frankly, if you have mastered the other games, the only reason to buy this is to master the run out combos. which themselves are indeed bull$#< remove me > at !. Sorry to shatter everyones illusions about this game , but i skate and this is crap. even more so than thps 4, but at least that didnt claim to be realistic.
| BEST THING IN THE WHOLE********WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | | Clem V.B. from Santa cruz, C.A., U.S.A. says (13/Jun/2004): | The graphics were for better than gods!!!!still at the begining it was too hard,but now i'm doing pretty good,still having trouble at S.D.You gotta get this game!!!!!!!!!!!GET IT NOW!!!! NOW!!!!!!!!!!!I never would have thought of it in a MILLION YEARS!!!!I LOVE THE GAME!!!!,it's the excuse that i use for not doing my homework.And its what I do when Iget home from school
(A.K.A. the sleepatory,HAHAHAHHAHHAHH!!!!!!!!!)Proves my laziness,My friends look like dilligint workers in front o' me.
When you make another one,please put in EMINEM,50CENT,D12,LINKIN PARK,Jay-Z,P-Diddy,Dr.Dre,Metallica & P.O.D. for the soundtrack.
| Dayum! | | Alex from Canada says (30/Dec/2003): | First Off this game is crazy and deserves a 10 BUT it is so dayum easy to beat! i beat it in like 3 hours. It sucked in that effect. But everything else is great but i hate Driving it is so dam retarted the cars suck! but i love getting off boerds and running around to keep a combo going. But if u have it play it ONLINE it is the best game online besides NBA Live 2004 which i already own. online u can go to like 20 differnt places and they have many differnt games such as a new one called firefight which is alright not great.This is only my openion you don't have to listen
| Decent, but not worth the high price | | Mynock from USA says (5/Nov/2003): | Tony Hawk Underground (THUG) is a good game. The gameplay is flawless, the controls are tight, the graphics make you drool, and there's tons of fun hidden/other things you can do. But the "story" of this thing is crap. When you play it you'll know what I mean. Regardless, I think everyone should buy THUG at some point in time, but do yourself a favour and wait until the price goes down.
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